Don’t Read This Fully Cross Posted Crap Sandwich

by Chris
May 4th, 2006 1:29 am

As an exercise in self control, leave aside every other argument against torture, and consider the argument Will Bunch makes this evening, because it’s really quite compelling. I certainly have no inside knowledge on any of this, but Bunch makes the perfectly reasonable argument that some very bad people can’t, or won’t, be tried and convicted because any real trial with real lawyers, judges and jurors would expose some very illegal acts committed by our government, likely destroying the government’s case. I pause a little here, because my faith is cracked and broken when it comes to the potential for public outrage over acts of torture, so that throws a huge wrench in a few of my half formed conclusions.

Nevertheless, this leaves those of us who care about such things, stuck in the often unenviable position of demanding that every human being, no matter how awful, be accorded every right guaranteed them under US and international law. This is not always a popular notion, even the most liberal of America’s enclaves. Some crimes are so awful that it’s hard not to think from the gut. It’s hard not to want retribution. I know. I’ve been there. But that gets to an important point; there is no evil, homicidal bastard exemption in the constitution. There is no gut feeling exemption and there is no right to retribution. Read it over and over, and you’ll never find any of it. The brush used was, quite intentionally, broad. We ignore our basic principals at our own peril. Illegal acts of state breed more of the same, and if Bunch is right, we’ve got one hell of a problem on our hands. I’m likely a fool, but I still hold the belief that the most effective way to investigate, prosecute and detain criminals, even the the really evil bastards, is to adhere to the letter of the law while doing so. Whatever.

Sorry if I’m a little incoherent here. I’m not feeling myself lately and this subject leaves my brain a bucket of slop. Nowhere to go but up, I suppose.

Cross Posted with frogs.

4 Responses to “Don’t Read This Fully Cross Posted Crap Sandwich”

  1. Ellen Says:

    Wow - thinking it all thru (after reading the Will Bunch). Makes sense. And I’m morose that they managed to leave one dude intact enough for trial to continue the sideshow. 24’s got nothing on reality.

    BTW - you’re not being incoherent - the subject is pretty incoherency causing, but you’re not being incoherent.

  2. upyernoz Says:

    cross post! cross post!

  3. Sir Oolius Says:

    No, don’t cross-post! Give up that BooMan thing and come back here full time again! Trust me, blogging is far more fun that way…well, sometimes at least.

    ;-)

  4. Chris Says:

    Quit? Me? That seems like the sort of thing I’d do.

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